Why the paranoia?

In recent days, suspicion and paranoia has climaxed within the Negotiation is Over cabal.

Nov 3 screen grab from the Negotiation is Over Facebook page

While Camille Marino pumps out an endless list of pleas for money (WARNING:this link takes you to the NIO website), her sycophants ensure that the group suppresses any comments or discussion that express concern over Marino, her “leadership” or the direction of the group, and they brutally harass any individuals (former colleagues and friends alike) that don’t tow the uniform talking points of the organization (which amounts to: give Marino money). It is ironic that a group that itself claims to be the victims of institutional suppression works so hard to suppress its own membership or critics. Obviously, as I discussed previously, their goal is to win some undeclared war against anyone in the world that doesn’t give money to Marino or express their uncritical loyalty to NIO’s twisted agenda, not to be morally correct or internally consistent.

As NIO continues to evolve into an increasingly insular and paranoid group, the deep parallels between the behaviors of its members and that of cults is becoming clearer and clearer. I only hope that those who joined the group thinking it was a legitimate and sane animal rights organization are now realizing the truth.

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25 comments

  1. 1. When problems arise within the ALM, they are not brushed under the carpet, but addressed and taken care of appropriately.

    2. People in glasshouses – fact is, you remain a vivisector and a criminal. You and your cronies will ever have each others backs, unless it suits one of you not to for selfish reasons.

    3. NIO is not the ALM per se. Additionally, certain people are not representative of this movement. Particularly when mental health issues are clouding their judgement…

    4. Those who ‘indulge’ in torment and murder of sentient beings and promote fraudulent science, enjoying a lifestyle built on spilt blood of innocents are sociopaths. There is no ‘cure’ for that is there David….

  2. Camille Marino is a sick woman in need of help. Unfortunately, she is surrounded by people who feed her illness. NIO does not represent the average animal activist. It has become a mockery of what it once was, thanks to bad leadership. Ms. Marino’s so called friends and closest allies continue to make excuses for her and allow her to make a fool of herself and the AR movement. I suggest you dont be so smug about it. For every ill person in the movement like Camille and her equally mentally ill cronies, there are good and decent activists who are determined to end vivisection.

  3. How do you sleep at night? Knowing that sentient beings suffer and die? Do you enjoy your lavish lifestyle? Im sure you do. You are worse than Camille is. You, and others like you, are murderers. Pure and simple.

  4. Jentsch you and your cronies may think you have won this battle but you haven’t. There are others besides NIO who are working to close you down. While you are laughing the war continues.

  5. Vivisection is a morally repugnant, scientifically fraudulent, and blatantly anachronistic method of research. It is both an animal rights and a human rights issue. Jentsch harms both animals and people; he empirically has the interests of neither at heart.

  6. Vivisectors like to paint themselves as altruistic “doctors” searching for “cures” for human ailments, but in reality they are simply psychopaths drawn to a legal and remunerative avenue which channels their impulses to torture and murder other living beings and serves to prop up the medical and pharmaceutical industries as our poor diets, polluted environment, and disastrous personal behaviors far outstrip our heritable predilections as contributors to ultimate illness. Notice how there seems to be a plethora of psychologists among their ranks. Animal abuse is one of the hallmark symptoms of psychopathology. Another is the complete inability to empathize with the suffering of other sentient beings while wailing with abject indignation when the tables are turned.

  7. There’s nothing wrong with being an animal activist; in fact, compassion is an honorable thing. But one must do things lawfully and through the proper channels. When one becomes an extremist has more to do with mental illness and mania – and is NOT activism. Camille and NIO has in fact, empowered vivisectionists. But one must be realistic about things: Animal testing is NOT going away. Would you treat your animals with medications NOT tested? Would you? Of course not.

  8. You know what is another sign of cultism? Animal sacrifice. The vivisection-industrial complex is a cult of barbaric animal cruelty and sacrifice.

  9. PRIMATES make ideal test subjects because their DNA is closer to that of a human than any other animal. It makes sense to use monkeys and apes in experiments. That’s just the way it is.

  10. It would be very foolish and irresponsible NOT to use primates for experimentation – safety is an issue when it comes to medications and procedures, they are the closest relative to humans. Blocking shipments of primates to research facilities is nothing short of foolish. You all need to get a REALITY CHECK – but I suppose a lack of basic education would prompt people to act based on emotion rather than using reason. But most animal activists are not schooled in the biological including microbiology sciences.

  11. Karen Kline – SHUT UP KAREN AND GO TO SCHOOL, YOUR GRAMMER IS CRAP TO..
    Karen Kline
    I’m going to make this quick as I’m not going to waste any more time on trash talk!
    We are all aware who our true enemies are as they have made it public, for all to see now, …. a number former allies have publicly aligned themselves with the vivisectors, and this statement is true by the mere fact of bashing an ARA!
    This clearly shows, an act of traitorism!
    The animals need every single person, on the face of this planet to fight for them, and any attempt to halt this is unacceptable!!
    This group of traitors is not only continuing to attempt and bring our comrade down, but as they do this, they also are attempting to anger us, hoping that we will make a mistake and possibly face charges also!
    Therefore I am urging all, to no longer comment anywhere to any thing posted by any traitor to the movement … do not forget, an online post was the beginning of this, right or wrong is not the matter now….the fact is, it can take you down easily and we can not let anger get in the way of common sense ….!
    The animals need each and every one of us as they are continue to attempt sabotage to activist’s they are harming the animals, we must put up an even fiercer fight for them now !
    In Solidarity!
    11 hours ago
    8 people like this.
    Karen Camilla Marino was given what she damn well deserved, and I hope on the 5th that she goes down. What a lowlife trash case she is. Telling you all SHE WAS GOING TO FIGHT THIS then after she took your DONATONS she pleaded guilty. Hummmmm yes a so called warrior. We did pass some more evidence on ourselves to the judge to along with more of the web sites “illegal entries” of peoples home addresses.
    In the mean-time though as you all refuse to comment and do f** all can you please explain 1) what the hell are you talking about Karen 2) this all started from a single online comment did it? WRONG your damn cult leader ATTACKED too many people including animal rights activists, SHE brought this on herself no one else and YOU all beefed it up more. She faces another case to of harassment when will she cease. She is mentally ill.
    I KINDLY ASK EVERYONE NOT TO GIVE MARINO NO MORE FUNDING TO EVEN BUYING HER BOOK WHICH ALL FUNDS SHALL GO TO HER AND NOT ANY ANIMAL. IF ALL THE STUDENTS AND THOSE AGAINST HER WOUKLD PLEASE SHARE THIS AS WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS CRAP NO MORE. SHE DESERVES WHAT SHE GOT.
    WHEN YOU ATTACK SOMEONE LONG ENOUGH KAREN THEY WILL ONLY TAKE SO MUCH YOU WAS ALL WARNED, AND JUST FOR THE RECORD I HAVE SENT MANY OF YOUR “GROUP COMMENTS” IN CHAT AND VIA EMAIL WHICH YOU BELIEVED WAS YOUR FRIEND “THE CRYPTED ONES” TO THE FBI :O) YOU MAKE MANY MISTAKES…… KEEP YOUR FRIENDS CLOSE “BUT YOUR ENEMIES EVEN CLOSER”

    HAVE A NICE DAY

  12. I forgot to mention to Karen “PLEASE PLACE YOUR FUNDS TO THE ANIMALS THAT NEED IT AND NOT A CRIMINAL THATS MILKING YOU ALL.. WAKE UP THE LOT OF YOU. SHE HAS NOT SAVED A DAMN ANIMAL, NOR HAVE WE SEEN ANY EVIDENCE OF THIS IN HER TACK GROUP I MEAN TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE NGO’S OUT THERE…… WE ARE COMING FOR YOU ALL AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO STOP NOW.. YOU HAVE ALL PUSHED YOUR LUCK TO FAR WITH US.. TRACING YOU IS ABOUT AS EASY AS TAKING CANDY OF A BABY.. MISTAKES YOU NEED NOT MAKE ANYMORE AS WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEED. AS FOR ADDING FRIENDS AND “GOGGLE – GMAIL SECRET CHATS WE HAVE BEEN AND STILL ARE WATCHING AND NOTING EVERYTHING DOWN” WE JUST THOUGHT WE WOULD MAKE YOU AWARE NOW.

    YOU ARE NOT AN ARA, YOU DO NOT SAVE ANIMALS, YOU TALK CRAP LIKE YOUR SLAVES WHEN THERE ARE ANIMALS DYING EVERYDAY WHICH YOU COULD BE SAVING, WHERE ARE YOU THOUGH? NO WHERE.. BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL BEEN BRAINWASHED BY A CRSTAL METH HEAD.

    CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT SHE IS THE MOST HATED ARA AND NOW SHE THINKS SHE IS GOING TO ATTACK OTHERS “AGAIN” WELL LAST YEAR SHE ATTACKED THE WRONG PERSON THAT PERSON HAS BEEN WAITING FOR THE RIGHT MOMENT TO MOVE, SHE ATTACKED SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN WORKING AS AN OPERATIVE FOR MANY YEARS.. THAT PERSON WAS KIND TO HER, BUT SHE THEN ATTACKED SO FOR THAT REASON WE ARE ALL GOING TO BRING NIO, AND THOSE THAT WORK WITH NIO DOWN BRICK BY FUCKING BRICK…….

    YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE YOU BLEW IT

    NOW WE WILL SHOW YOU WHAT NIO IS ABOUT….

    NEGOTIATION IS COMING TO AN END – NIO IS OVER WHEN WE SAY

  13. This is what always eventually happens to the brain of a vegan. Total mental collapse. Camille is just another in a long line as was Hitler.

    1. Very very very few vegans are like her and NIO. Unfortunately researchers are often targeted by extremists-but the mass majority of vegans and animal activists do NOT support criminal activities.

  14. У суботу увече смо затворили једно од многих терористичких организација сајтовима.
    NIO is over

  15. On the evening of Saturday at approximately 23:00 we the Liberation Peoples Front took control of the Negotiation is Over domain word press site closing this site down. We will not hesitate in closing this site down again should we see the site replaced.

    Ms Marino you was warned to remove content of your site that you failed to do. You wish to take us on then you shall take us on then you take the silent armies of the Liberation Peoples Movement.

    Now negotiation is over. Everything you do and say is being watched Marino and all information from Karen Kline along with log in details, chat, and more is being fed back to us which we are then feeding back to the authorities.

    All encrypted files we have located and are now reading, you pushed your luck to far NIO and now you pay the price, for attacking one of our dear Liberationists.

    You made a mistake NIO and that was to fall for anything that people will tell you. That mistake we have been waiting to move on and that was your full details and web log in address.

    Karen Kline as you wish to act on behalf of Marino then we will come for you next should we see you attacking good activists because you wish to gain some moral advantage over people for your own fame.

    The Animal Liberation Front you have also betrayed – No you are no animal savior but a hypocritical psychopath that engages children to do your dirty filthy work.

    Negotiation is Over

    L.P.F – Fighting for rights is best fought silently.

    Han

  16. Karen Kline, smh,. is the most harassing of individuals. I was blessed with one of her threats just today.
    Unfortunately for her,.she didnt know who she was threatening,

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